I think Tim will be posting the brand new goes through of visualize to help you their site, and will post one to link to the newsgroup.

Re: Wingfield Coats-of-Hands

contacts of the participants, (the fresh Wingfields had been investigated fairly well, and you will even Ukraine Date kostnad with my typo into the Howard family, I really do feel the pedigree correctly annotated within RI) >>

I am not sure this might be an accurate statement. Does the guide target the fresh age group *prior* so you can John Russell exactly who age the parents out of Elizabeth Russell exactly who meters Sir Robert Wingfield ?

Re: ? Comyn wife from Malise

You will find the next so you can fill in some of the gaps you show forthe high-grandparents out of Reginald ce Cheyne. Among the many primaryadditions is due to their paternal grandma (NN on the post) havingbeen Mary de Moravia (als de Moray), brother and you may coheiress out of Freskinde Moravia away from Duffus (their own parents Walter de Moravia and you may Euphemia ofRoss come below). You have the concern on his maternalgrandmother: I hold she was Joanna de- Menteith, next spouse of Malise,Earl out-of Strathearn. This will about provide a close explanationfor Joanna’s daughter Helen out-of Strathearn (spouse successively ofReginald le Cheyne, the daddy, as well as Sir David de- Graham) beingnamed for Helen de Menteith, sis out-of Joanna and you may spouse out of Sir ColinCampbell away from Lochow (d. bef Could possibly get 1343).

Unfortuitously, I believe there are additional holes during the Muriel Keith’sancestry (see below). As to sometimes additions advised to the tablesbelow, excite suggest of any noted issues, or exactly what documentationmight suggest people error detailed.

I’ve openings in ancestries, however, fiercely for the reason that from Reginald.Having Muriel Keith, their high-grandparents I show1 William de Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton

I am not conscious of people files supporting the character of the companion due to the fact Barbara Seton. If you have indexed one, excite indicates.

3 Alexander de Synton4 NN5 Alexander off /Fraser/ Chamberlain out-of Scotland d 3 Aug 13326 Mary de- Brus, Baroness /Fraser/

Sir Alexander Fraser hitched Mary Bruce (otherwise de Brus), along with an excellent young man John defined as ‘nepos’ away from Robert _the_Bruce. So it son was a more youthful John, however, and not their heir. John Fraser, after lord away from Aboyne, is brand new young man out of a primary relationships (it spouse not familiar; You will find so it towards power away from Andrew MacEwen).

step 3 Walter de- Moravia (young man away from Hugh de- Moravia, and you may Annabela out of Fife) cuatro Euphemia away from Ross (dau. out of Fearchar, very first Earl from Ross and NN deBrus)

5 Malise, 6th Earl regarding /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN possibly Comyn d aft 13097 Sir John de Menteith (young man regarding Walter Stewart, Age off Menteith and you can

The consanguinity anywhere between Muriel Keith and you may Reginald le Cheyne -known to was basically a-grandson out of Malise, Earl from Strathearn (d.1312) – is the sole evidence (if secondary) why these one or two individualshad one or more ancestor/ancestress in common.

You will find openings in ancestries, however, fiercely where out-of Reginald.For Muriel Keith, their particular high-grandparents We show1 William de- Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton3 Alexander de Synton4 NN5 Alexander from /Fraser/ Chamberlain from Scotland d step 3 Aug 13326 Mary de Brus, Baroness /Fraser/seven NN Fraser8 NN

To possess Reginald le Cheney it’s sparse1 NN Cheney , dos NN, 3 NN, 4 NN5 Malise, sixth Earl regarding /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN possibly Comyn d aft 13097 and you can 8 NN

Re: Agnes Beler

Woodford, very early 15the century, within the Leicestershire. Elizabeth are the fresh d Villiers and Agnes Beler. Now, I do want to hook up Agnes so you’re able to Sir Roger Beler, killed because of the Eustace de- Folville, however, I can not look for one information regarding their own. Can be people let?